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In this first episode of ECGI Conversations, Dr. Tom Gosling, Executive Fellow at ECGI and LBS, speaks to Professor Elizabeth Pollman about her paper "The Corporate Governance Machine" co-authored with Dorothy Lund.
Find out Elizabeth's thoughts on these key issues:

  • Corporate purpose
  • Co-opting aspects of stakeholderism to the shareholder value cause
  • The move from CSR to ESG
  • Does ESG activity actually benefits stakeholders and society?
  • Public Benefit Corporations
  • Reforming corporate governance to encourage a more responsible form of capitalism.

We hope you enjoy the conversation - to read the full paper, please visit this page


  • Lund, Dorothy S. and Pollman, Elizabeth, The Corporate Governance Machine (2021). Columbia Law Review, Vol. 121, p. 2563, 2021, U of Penn, Inst for Law & Econ Research Paper No. 21-05, European Corporate Governance Institute - Law Working Paper No. 564/2021, USC CLASS Research Paper No. CLASS21-15, USC Law Legal Studies Research Paper Series No. 21-15, Available at SSRN: or

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